interesting how all this stuff bypasses mi6

Tortured while MI5 left the room
Briton’s claim after 7/7 attacks

Ian Cobain, Guardian, May 26 2009

When the Bangladeshi police came to take away Jamil Rahman, he says that among the armed officers surrounding the home of his wife’s family were a couple of incongruous figures. Wearing balaclavas that left only their eyes showing were two men who, according to Rahman, towered over the police. While Rahman, a British citizen who grew up in south Wales, immediately suspected the men were European, he says he could not be sure of the colour of their skin as they were wearing gloves. He said there are witnesses to what happened next: the Bangladeshi police picked out Rahman, asked the masked men if this was the individual who was to be detained, and the two men nodded. Rahman was then beaten, and he and his wife driven away.

The events he describes happened on Dec 1 2005 and, according to an account by Rahman that forms the basis of civil proceedings being brought against the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, it was the start of an ordeal that would last more than two years. The couple were taken to the local headquarters of the directorate general of forces intelligence (DGFI), one of the country’s main intelligence agencies, and held in separate cells. After being stripped, beaten and told that his wife would be raped and murdered and her body burned, Rahman says he agreed to make a lengthy tape-recorded confession to a number of terrorist offences, including masterminding the suicide bomb attacks on London’s transport network the previous July.

He says he was then questioned by two well-spoken Britons by the names of Liam and Andrew, who said they were MI5 officers. When he told them he had been tortured and had made false confessions, and asked for their help, he says the two said they “needed a break”. Andrew is said to have added: “They haven’t done a very good job on you.” Rahman says he was then beaten, had extreme pressure exerted on his testicles, and was told his wife was to be raped. When the questioning resumed, according to Rahman, Andrew said: “That’s good, you’ve learned your lesson.” Rahman then made a series of admissions that he and his lawyers say were false. He says he was also shown a number of maps that he was instructed to copy on to pieces of paper, which were taken away by the two.

Rahman says that after being interrogated for almost three weeks he and his wife were released, but he was told that he must reside in his wife’s family’s village and not talk to anyone about his experiences. He says he was told that his calls would be monitored and that he was specifically instructed not to contact any lawyers or members of the media, or the UK high commission in Dhaka. Rahman, a graduate and former civil servant, had settled in Bangladesh that year after marrying a woman from Sylhet, in the north-east of the country. On his release there his passport was withheld and not returned by the high commission for two and a half years. During that period, Rahman says, he was frequently summoned for interrogations by MI5 and Bangladeshi officials.

He says he was shown hundreds of photographs, including surveillance photographs of friends in the UK, whom he was asked to identify. If he did not co-operate, he says, the two British officers would leave the room, during which time he would be beaten. He says that during these interrogations he was accused of “masterminding” the Jul 2005 suicide bomb attacks in London. On one occasion, he says, he was ordered to bring his wife with him, and she too says she was threatened with rape. Rahman says that senior Bangladeshi agents who were supervising his mistreatment would give instructions that his head was not to be marked and that no bones were to be broken.

During many of the interrogations, he says, the MI5 officers would ask him: “We’re not torturing you, are we.” He would confirm that they were not, and on one occasion he was told to repeat his answer in a louder voice, which he did. Rahman believes that these exchanges were being recorded. He alleges he was also questioned by three men who identified themselves as Scotland Yard officers, and by an American woman who called herself Mary. He says the police wanted him to give evidence against another man in a UK trial, and alleges that MI5 said it would arrange for others to give evidence against him if he refused.

Rahman returned to the UK in May last year after his passport was returned by British consular officials in Dhaka. He embarked on legal proceedings once his wife and son were able to join him last week. The couple’s four-month-old boy remains in Bangladesh, however, as they have not received the British passport for which they applied 12 weeks ago. They say they are deeply concerned for his safety.

7 Responses to “interesting how all this stuff bypasses mi6”

  1. abubaqar Says:

    it amazes me as to what makes people think that torture gets you the truth. if these same M15 or others like the mukthi- bahine currently in charge in bangladesh were to be given the same treatment, i have no doubt that they would own up to being the lost sons of the jewish and christian terrorists in israel,europe and america who are proven to be mass murderers in history! we just need to look at iraq!!

  2. Phil Says:

    Shows they didn’t know who masterminded 7/7.

  3. niqnaq Says:

    No, Phil, it is equally possible, and equally likely, that they masterminded it themselves, in order to create a casus belli. Then, any patsies would do, the more the merrier. See:
    http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2009/05/26/were-they-ours/

    As a matter of fact, we know they are interested in extending their ‘target set’ to Bangladeshis:
    http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/watch-out-uk-bangladeshis/

  4. Andrew Milner Says:

    Grow a moustache, wear a black hat and suck it up, Britisher pals. Because you’re the bad guys now. Wonder if certain embassies in London are preparing extra staff to cope with a potential rush of applications for visas or nationality.
    “The object of torture is torture.” George Orwell, 1984.

  5. niqnaq Says:

    Orwell at least knew what he was talking about, which is more than I can say for the vacuous Harold Pinter (who nevertheless wrote a whole play on the subject).

  6. Dianne Foster Says:

    I wonder sometimes what the Brazilian electrician saw. Clearly, everyone had a ready lie for how and why he died. Maybe they are just professional liars, and they sculpt the story to fit their power needs. We may be living in hard times, but I think this is like a glimpse people rarely get of power about its business. The only thing is, they are having trouble because there are communications holes which can allow information to pass. Perhaps that is why there are new czars appointed to handle that. Does anyone think for one moment that the British Empire was founded on fairness and decency to “Third World” individuals? Maybe for a time they had to behave themselves, but after the fall of the Soviet Union (bad in and of itself) who was to oppose “the English-speaking people”? ” Liam and Andrew – that’s rich. You might have one with a shamrock pin and the other with a thistle, calling on the Third World as slavish minions of power. It would be comic if it didn’t kill and terrify so many people.

  7. niqnaq Says:

    We don’t know whether Menezes was killed accidentally or on purpose. The Justice4Jean team, understandably, have not released any record of his employment before his death, which would contain the essential clue, if there is one.

    In a more recent post, I have answered my own question about why it’s always MI5 and never MI6 (assuming the answer is not just that MI6 has obtained some convention of not being mentioned by name); I have suggested that the system of “pseudo-gangs”, i.e., manipulated fake terrorist patsies, begins by pressuring British Muslims into playing roles, which would be done by domestic security here in Britain, i.e. MI5. Perhaps the fact that the FBI so often turns up at the scenes of overseas terrorist bombings has a similar explanation.

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