Niqnaq

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US Ambassador to Israel: Plan to Attack Iran “Ready”
Kurt Nimmo, Infowars, May 16 2012

US ambassador to Israel Daniel Shaprio, told a closed conference in Tel Aviv that the US has completed preparations for a military strike on Iran. His comments were recorded by a reporter and aired on Israel’s Channel 2 TV on Wednesday night. Shapiro sat on the NSC as senior director for the Middle East before Obama appointed him ambassador to Israel. Shapiro said:

It would be preferable to resolve this diplomatically, and through the use of pressure, than to use military force. But that does not mean that option isn’t available. Not just available, it’s ready. The necessary planning has been done to ensure that it’s ready.

Shapiro’s comments were not intended for public consumption, the Times of Israel reports. The finalized attack plan arrives as USrael prepares for joint military exercises in the US, the same story reports:

The exercises, to be held in the coming months, will strengthen the relationship between the IAF and the USAF as they practice carrying out joint operations. Israeli and US air defense forces are also to take part in a major joint drill later this summer in Israel to simulate a massive attack. Thousands of US soldiers are expected to arrive in Israel for the drills.

In January, Stars and Stripes reported that the exercise in Israel, billed as the largest ever conducted by the two countries, is not related to tensions with Iran, according to EUCOM. A EUCOM spokesman explained in an email to the Dept of Defense newspaper:

The long-planned exercise is part of a routine training cycle designed to improve the interoperability of our air defense systems, and not in response to any real-world event. It’s a classified exercise, and we can’t release even small details about it.

Austere Challenge ’12 was originally scheduled for April, but postponed by Obama. Gareth Porter and Jim Lobe reported in January:

US participation in such an exercise, obviously geared to a scenario involving an Iranian retaliation against an Israeli attack on its nuclear facilities, would have made the US out to be a partner of Israel in any war that would follow an Israeli attack on Iran. Obama and US military leaders apparently decided that the US could not participate in such an exercise so long as Netanyahu refused to give the administration any assurance that he will not attack Iran without prior approval from Washington.

On Mar 8, Israel Insider reported that Netanyahu had struck a deal with the US. Citing Maariv, the website reported:

The US will supply Israel with bunker-busting bombs and refueling planes in return for delaying a strike against Iran until at least the end of the year.

In short, the long-planned strike on Iran will occur after the November election in the US.

Written by niqnaq

May 17, 2012 at 4:54 am

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  1. There are several things I LOVE about this article.
    1. It’s about a ‘closed’ meeting (broadcast on National TV).
    2. With all the lies and bluster coming from Israel & USA over the years, one wonders if anyone in Israel, besides Mr Shapiro, is silly enough to believe that Iran hasn’t got it’s counter-attack on Israel, and US ‘assets’ planned with just as much detail as the Pentagon’s Iran plan?
    3. No-one with a fool-proof war plan talks about it in public – ever.
    4. My money is on Iran & Friends if Iran is attacked by Israel and/or the US – as much as I can get my hands on.

    Hoarsewhisperer

    May 17, 2012 at 6:04 am

  2. I’ve just changed the story, so that it still includes a link to the Times of Israel report, but gives more background. I don’t actually accept Lobe and Porter’s narrative, that Israel is dragging the US into this war, but it’s valid context nonetheless.

    niqnaq

    May 17, 2012 at 6:07 am

  3. Aren’t you splitting hairs on the Lobe/Porter narrative? I prefer the ‘barbarous’ US motivations articulated at What’s Left but whether Israel is dragging or shoving the US makes little difference. They’re on the record as clamoring for Iran to bombed. The funny thing is that IF it happened, they’d have less than 2 hours to gloat about it before Haifa and Tel Aviv began their transformation into piles of rubble.

    Hoarsewhisperer

    May 17, 2012 at 6:43 am

  4. maybe.

    niqnaq

    May 17, 2012 at 6:49 am

  5. Seems a lot of folks out there want the Jews to idly sit by as Iran builds a system more efficient than the gas chambers were. Well, surprise – the good old days are gone. Those nasty Jews are not going to go quietly this time. Those horrible Jews are going to preempt an Iranian strike with a strike of their own. Now if that is hard for folks to take, then too bad. Guess like all the rest of mankind, the Jews would rather feed shit to others than eat it themselves.

    Marty Newman

    May 17, 2012 at 9:42 am

  6. That’s a wonderfully fatuous comment, Marty, I shall keep it as a souvenir.

    niqnaq

    May 17, 2012 at 9:45 am

  7. “Fatuous”: vacantly silly, purposeless, idiotic. Hmm. That’s not much of a comment on your part but then again it must be hard waiting around in your bed pisser for a vicarious buzz. You won’t have long to wait for the fun though you and the Jew haters who flock to your site will be sadly disappointed. Little gloating will be had by Jew haters when this over… Will WILE E. COYOTE NEVER LEARN? And please do keep the souvenir.

    Marty Newman

    May 17, 2012 at 10:19 am

  8. If there’s a difference between preempting a counter-attack and provoking one, Marty, would you mind explaining it – in a way that makes sense?.

    Hoarsewhisperer

    May 17, 2012 at 1:17 pm

  9. Dear Horsebreath, I’m surprised that a Jew hater like yourself has so such much concern for my welfare. Since you’re not very bright, let me explain that we (I live in Israel) are going to preempt an ATTACK. Like 1967. Remember, it’s Iran that is PROVOKING the attack. Now run along and enjoy the day pulling wings off your pet flies.

    We’re here to stay and prosper despite the wishes of trolls like you, so curb your tongue oand you’ll look like less of a horse’s ass when Ahmadinajad gets flushed down the toilet of history. Toodle-loo and make sure you’ve got plenty of antacids on hand for the big show.

    Marty Newman

    May 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm

  10. I don’t think that makes much sense, Marty. Hoarsewhisperer isn’t the troll here. You are. Now I shall cause you to be regarded by my blog’s anti-semitic underware as spam. Bye-bye!

    niqnaq

    May 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm

  11. Thanks for trying, Marty. Is there a short version? I didn’t understand that one. As far as I can discover, Iran was one of the few neighbors who didn’t.attack “Israel” in 1967.

    Hoarsewhisperer

    May 17, 2012 at 3:09 pm

  12. RE: “US ambassador to Israel Daniel Shapiro, told a closed conference in Tel Aviv that the US has completed preparations for a military strike on Iran… Shapiro sat on the NSC [National Security Council] as senior director for the Middle East before Obama appointed him ambassador to Israel.” ~ Kurt Nimmo

    MY COMMENT: Daniel Shapiro was apparently AIPAC’s man on the NSC [National Security Council]. I have also read that AIPAC has veto power over the appointment of U.S. ambassadors to five Mediterranean countries (Israel, Morocco, Lebanon, etc.)

    FROM THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE 1992 AIPAC TELEPHONE CALL POSTED ON M.J. ROSENBERG’S SITE (excerpt):

    HAIM KATZ: “If Clinton is elected, has he told you who he’s going to put on the Supreme Court?”
    DAVID STEINER AIPAC: “We’re talking now. We don’t have no commitments yet. We’re just negotiating. We’re more interested right now, in the secretary of state and the secretary of National Security Agency. That’s more important to us.”
    HAIM KATZ: “If Clinton is elected, who do you think will be secretary of state?”
    DAVID STEINER AIPAC: We don’t know yet, we’re negotiating.

    HAIM KATZ: Who are you hoping for?
    DAVID STEINER AIPAC: I’ve got a list. But I really can’t go through it. I’m not allowed to talk about it.”

    HAIM KATZ: But you figure, God willing, if Clinton’s elected . . .
    DAVID STEINER AIPAC: We’ll have access.
    HAIM KATZ: You’ll have access and you’ll have a good input into who’s secretary of state.
    DAVID STEINER AIPAC: I do believe so.
    HAIM KATZ: And the other position is. . .
    DAVID STEINER AIPAC: National security adviser.

    HAIM KATZ: Those are the two critical positions.
    DAVID STEINER AIPAC: Right.

    SOURCE – http://mjayrosenberg.com/2012/05/16/aipacs-congress/

    dickerson3870

    May 18, 2012 at 2:04 am

  13. It really is Shapiro, not Shaprio. The latter was a misprint, which I have corrected.

    niqnaq

    May 18, 2012 at 2:08 am

  14. RE: “…surprise – the good old days are gone. Those nasty Jews are not going to go quietly this time. Those horrible Jews are going to preempt an Iranian strike with a strike of their own. Now if that is hard for folks to take, then too bad. Guess like all the rest of mankind, the Jews would rather feed shit to others than eat it themselves.” ~ Marty Newman

    FROM WIKIPEDIA [Samson Option]:

    (excerpts) The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.[1] . . .
    . . . Some have written about the “Samson Option” as a retaliation strategy. In 2002, the Los Angeles Times published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter which has been seen as justifying a Samson Option approach.[19] He wrote:
    “Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The Jews understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. . [20]

    . . . In 2003, Martin van Creveld [professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem - J.L.D.] thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel’s existence.[21] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst’s “The Gun and the Olive Branch” (2003) as saying:

    “We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. . . Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.”[22]

    Ron Rosenbaum writes in his 2012 book How the End Begins: The Road to a Nuclear World War III that in the “aftermath of a second Holocaust” Israel’s surviving Dophin-class nuclear missile submarines would retaliate not only against Israel’s attackers, but “bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)” as well as the “holy places of Islam.” He writes that “abandonment of proportionality is the essence” of the Samson Option.[23] . . .

    SOURCE – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

    dickerson3870

    May 18, 2012 at 2:11 am

  15. From a certain perspective, Christians Muslims and Jews are related, thus hating one another means self hatred hence masochism, all in all it is just family feud…

    Avraham Avi Hecht

    May 18, 2012 at 5:15 am

  16. “We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome…blah blah blah..

    There’s only one problem with that theory
    Israel hasn’t got any nukes.
    Anyone who wants to can figure it out for themselves.
    The entire Israel Nukes daydream is a logical fallacy from beginning to end.

    Hoarsewhisperer

    May 18, 2012 at 6:05 am

  17. This is a completely baseless claim. You’ve made it before. You suffer from some sort of psychological denial syndrome.

    niqnaq

    May 18, 2012 at 6:08 am

  18. I know what you mean. But I didn’t say it to wind you up. If they had several x 100 Nukes they could blow the baseless claim clean out of the water with a spare nuke, next week. There would be no downside to doing so and it would, and could, only strengthen their position.

    Hoarsewhisperer

    May 18, 2012 at 7:43 am

  19. “There would be no downside to doing so ”
    there would be no downside on sending 1 nuke on somebody?
    really!!!

    walter benjamin

    May 18, 2012 at 10:59 am

  20. No, he’s saying that if they had them (which he insists they do not), there would be no downside to proving it with a test explosion somewhere ‘uninhabited’, which could doubtless be found. But there is a downside, namely, they would then be under multiplied pressure to sign the NPT.

    niqnaq

    May 18, 2012 at 11:29 am

  21. Christian Muslims…now there’s a deep thinker. Why not Muslim Muslims, aren’t they as full of BS? LOL!!!

    helvena

    May 18, 2012 at 12:11 pm

  22. OK, helvena, so he missed out a comma. Doubtless his heart is in the right place.
    :-)

    niqnaq

    May 18, 2012 at 12:43 pm

  23. Dickerson3870’s Samson Option extract from wiki, and the passage I quoted from it, make it clear that the ‘Israelis’ regard their nuke rumor as a variation on the theme of a Doomsday (deterrent) device. The Doomsday philosophy boils down to “If we can’t get our own way, we’ll blow everything up, including ourselves.”
    Stanley Kubrick addressed this mindset in Dr Strangelove.(1964).

    Dr. Strangelove: “Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret! Why didn’t you tell the world, EH?”

    48 years on, it’s still a good question.

    Hoarsewhisperer

    May 19, 2012 at 3:00 am


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