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obama’s hypocritical sanctimoniousness about the “families” makes me think he would have made a better undertaker than a president
How rebel mourning MH17 victims was turned into looter with trophy
RT.com, Jul 21 2014
Twitter is quick, but too quick sometimes. Recently it burst with photos of an evil Ukrainian militiaman who took a teddy bear from the victim of Malaysia plane crash as a trophy. But the full video shows he was just paying the tribute to the dead. A photo signed “pro-Russian fighter holds up a toy found among the debris at the crash site of MH17” has been used by such major media outlets as the BBC and NBC. Some outlets went as far as to say that ‘pro-Russian fighters’ were collecting the belongings of passengers of the doomed Malaysia Airlines MH17 flight.
“Pro-Russian Militants Pick Through Debris at Jet Crash Site,” wrote NBC and supported the headline with the photo. The internet users posted this photo saying the self-defense forces with OSCE observers were “picking through #MH17 jet debris.”
Some Twitter users called out for a ‘response’:
Pic of separatist holding child's stuffed monkey toy in wreckage is infuriating as a parent. US response lacking. We used to call out evil.—
Mayor Matt Powell (@MayorPowell) July 19, 2014
Ukraine’s news outlets were crueler to the members of self-defense forces at the scene of a crashed plane; they called the man terrorist who stole the toy. “The militants are taking the toys of the children, the tourists’ maps, the notebooks of the businessmen,” wrote Ukraine’s sans census news website. “Terrorist of people’s Republic of Donetsk with a trophy. ready for the negotiations,” comments Ukraine’s news portal 24ua.me.
A poignant and defining image of my day is a man in Ukraine, weapon and fag in one hand, and a murdered child's toy monkey in the other.—
Parkey (@PiscatorRedux) July 19, 2014
In reality, the photo was taken during a visit of 30 OSCE international observers who arrived at the scene of the crashed plane to investigate the area. Among the OSCE group were the members of self-defense forces in Donetsk region who accompanied them.
The footage shows that one of the members of self-defense troops suddenly saw a teddy bear which apparently belonged to a child who was among the 298 passenger on board the Malaysian jet. “We want those bastards to see whom they shot down,” the man said, “Do you see?” meaning that there were innocent children who died in the crash. Then he carefully put the toy back to a heap of other items that used to belong to the passengers. After that he took off his cap and marked himself with a sign of the cross paying the tribute to the memory of the victims of the catastrophe.
The MH17 flight crash site is a vast territory, from 10 to 50 square kilometers according to various sources, as the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 came apart kilometers above the surface and the debris rained down on the fields around the village of Grabovo. That explains why Donetsk People’s Republic emergency services opted to collect the located belongings of the passengers from the territory and bring them to one spot. If not taken to a single place, they could be lost later, as mapping such a huge number of fragments and items appears to be a monumental task. Though international expert community insisted on not touching the bodies, after several days of waiting in vain, when no international experts managed to leave Kiev to see the crash site, where daily temperature reached +30 Celsius, the self-defense forces opted to collect the decomposing bodies and loaded them on to a refrigerated train. Now that the first Dutch forensic experts, the first international investigators, have arrived in eastern Ukraine to assess the aftermath of the Malaysian plane crash, they will finally get a first glimpse on the crash site and probably share their preliminary findings with the media.
Don’t worry, the stuff I put together will find its way into the blogosphere soon enough. Here is Sharye, anyway:
strelkov posted this on his blog on jul 21, apologies for the machine translation but you get the idea
They deliberately bring the Kingdom of the Antichrist…
ICorpus, Jul 21 2014 – Interview by Gennadi Dubov
Our interlocutor is a veteran of the war in Afghanistan, later a policeman, now a hieromonk. This is all what did he ask questions, to talk about this, as every monk, he does not consider it necessary. “Why? The Lord knows all who are in this world called. From the land I and earth will leave.” Father Victor. Fighters of the legendary units of Motorola praised him with boundless respect as “Our battle father.” He was with the militias in Semenovka during the most terrible battles, performed his priestly and military duty, carried prayer watch. In the dugout under fierce mortar and howitzer firing, told the men of the providential significance, about sacral meaning of the monarchy; explained that to say so familiar to most belligerent swear words: “So, devils, to entertain, to deprive themselves of angelic protection.” Once, when a mine hit the roof of the building where Victor was reading the akathist of the Theotokos to the soldiers, he, remembering the Afghan experience, “fish”, together with the commander of the firing squad Cedar jerked up in the window. And to us, Semenovka, he came to spiritual care for soldiers to know: “soldiers this monk, however, is not an external battle but internal, with evil spirits.” This conversation took place in the last days of May, long before departing troops militia from Slavyansk. The priest asked not to publish this interview until then, “until you drop a large aircraft, then everything will change, and the war will be unlike any of the previous wars. The plane fell, everything is changing rapidly…
Political, economic, social and cultural reasons for this and any other war is always secondary, the main thing is the spiritual dimension. What is the main, deep, spiritual cause of this war? The words of the Apostle Paul in the Epistle to the Ephesians: “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” It is true of any war. Visible, tangible reasons for the war doesn’t explain anything. It’s a trick of the dark forces. A warrior is always at war with the demons, he is the enemy of the forces of the devils. We are fighting with prayer, the word of God. Currently, these forces gathered around Slavyansk, for it is the spiritual center of Novorossiya, and Svyatogorsk monastery, one of the strongholds of Orthodoxy. Those who defend Slavyansk and other cities, all the defenders of the Orthodox faith, are waiting in a short time trials… However, these tests will benefit the Orthodox army, will make it stronger spiritually. As said by the Holy Noble-born Prince Alexander Nevsky: “God is Not in force, but in truth.” The truth of God for us, and victory will be ours.
What wonders the Lord hath wrought. We will move away, back from defending our cities. Come to, already in other purified by sorrow. Back. As gold in the furnace is tested, cleaned of impurities, so the Lord trieth our purity. After all, and here, among the militia, there are those who are deceived, exercise faith in the Nordic gods and all the other pagan nonsense. Sorrows are sent to purify, deliverance from sin. When would seem that all was lost, the enemy invincible and no help from Above, the despair of those who out of the darkness of despair will call to the Christ the Savior will be transformed into understanding and unshakable faith. The rest will remain outside, in the darkness of the godless madness, and it is their choice, which has no justification, for all – and to our soldiers, and our enemies, and all the other inhabitants, will open the truth of this war. Anyone who has eyes and ears will suffer, who and why is committing mass murder. Opened many will horrify, and they will try not to see, not hear, nor can he know them, so terrible will be the reason. Try as before to lie to himself, to explain reasons only ideological and political, to bring everything to the material, but “explain” these are vain, all will be clear: it is false, and the father of lies you know who…
- Is it true? What is deep, spiritual, eschatological meaning of this war?
The establishment of a planetary satanic rule. What happens here is the beginning of a global war. Not for resources and territory, that’s secondary. This is a war to destroy the true Christianity of Orthodoxy. The outlook of the richest people that own almost all the material wealth of the planet, is the essence of Satanism. They caused the elements of the first and second world wars, and a third information war, which put hundreds of millions of them that were slain on the altar of their father. Satan began the fourth world war. They deliberately bring the Kingdom of the Antichrist… Otherwise divine order in which the person is not in the image and likeness of the Creator of the worlds visible and invisible, and programmable information and virtual banking managed, at any time nullifiable biomass… The spirits of wickedness many tricks will only invent, to obey them “the masters of the world” began mass murder. Will fall planes that no one was shot down; will be dead as living close to call; will be armed to the teeth as the unarmed and defenseless will be more terrible than the armies…
Many believe that the Kiev Nazis shot civilians from a safe distance only out of military-political considerations. No. So inspired ordinary performers who believe that they are at any price: killing the Ukrainians must preserve the unity of Ukraine. And those politicians who give murderers orders know what they are doing: they bring a sacrifice. In the same way as did Hitler. As it is, the present backstage rulers are racists. The roots of racism lie in the occult and Satanism. The demoniac Fuhrer not simply destroyed populations defective from his point of view, it is with a full understanding of how pagan priest brought mass casualties to the demonic hordes, to offer their blood in return for the promise of power over the world. Mad men, worshipping the Golden Calf, imagined themselves the rulers of the world, doing the same. They are the “chosen ones” to purify the world from the “excess”, the “sub-humans.” And the only thing that truly prevents their satanic plans is the Orthodox Church. And the defender of the Orthodox faith is Russia. They seek to crush their enemies, splitting the larger Russian world, which includes Ukraine, turning it into a Nazi base. In the launch pad for a new world war, which is planned to “clear the planet from excessive biomass,” to bring the dark forces so many victims that the defense of one of Ukraine can simply physically do not stay…
- “History, ” said one writer, is the execution secret wishes of the people, deferred in time.” Do secret desires of the majority, not only Ukrainian, it is freedom from a life with Christ for the sake of permissiveness in the sin of bestiality, which today is imposed under the guise of European liberal “values”?
War is God’s will for the sake of instruction. Now is the time came that the high priests of many withdrew from the truth, in the words of St John of Kronstadt, “find attractive and favorite.” That’s going to convene an Ecumenical Council, the eighth. The enemies of the Orthodox Church and Russia, have prepared for this over a long period. They dream of inposing ecumenism, this heresy of heresies, upon us, and here they are now firing cannotns at us, killing women, children and old people. But the Holy fathers commanded: the eighth Ecumenical Council will not happen. And the war reminds us of this: think about all of this. “There are no atheists in the trench under fire.” People need to realize what they really want to know, how many in the souls of darkness and evil, and to repent. To return to the Heavenly Father as the prodigal son that was dead and is alive again; he that was lost and is found.
this annihilating wave of “urugan” rockets and artillery shells was unleashed on lugansk the day after the boeing crash
A mass brawl broke out in the Ukrainian parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, in Kiev on Tuesday, as deputies from the Party of Regions fought with members of the Svoboda party. The official context was a government motion for general mobilisation, ie a wider conscription into the Army, because an awful lot of government troops either got killed & incapacitated in, or are still trapped in, the ill-judged offensive along the Russian border. But the informal context is that Tyanibok and others were making inflammatory speeches saying the Party of Regions should be banned (the Communists are already banned), that various people should be declared traitors and either imprisoned or exiled, and so on. Here is a longer version of the same thing, showing the leadup to the brawl, with Tyanibok making his inflammatory speech, someone from the Party of Regions trying to protest and take the podium, and then the brawl breaking out:
continuing problems for ordinary israeli jews who tend to believe in things like free speech & can’t get used to actual fascism in practice
Little room for wartime dissent in Israeli media
Bettina Marx, Deutsche Welle, Jul 21 2014
It’s tough going in the Israeli media for those opposed to the offensive in the Gaza Strip. They can generally get just one sentence out before being interrupted, often quite rudely. The interruptions don’t just come from co-panelists, but also from the anchors themselves. It’s become a frequent pattern recently. That pattern was on display as a journalist and a radio presenter sat in a TV studio next to Yehuda Shaul from Breaking The Silence, a group of former soldiers who are against the Israeli occupation. Shaul was announcing a demonstration against the military offensive before being shouted down. Radio presenter Sharon Gal fumed:
You are a Jew and should be ashamed! You should put on a uniform and go to the Gaza Strip, instead of sitting in TV studios to organize demonstrations!
Arab Knesset representative Mohammad Barakeh took part in the studio conversation via video feed. He also draws Gal’s rage. Gal told him:
You’re a liar! You’re a criminal! You shouldn’t be allowed to speak here! You should go to Hamas TV! You are supporting Hamas!
A sense of crisis pervades the country. The three TV stations, one state-run and two private broadcasters, are going around the clock. “A State under Fire” read one eye-catching headline. Gideon Levy created a frenzy recently after writing an article in Haaretz in which he criticized air force pilots for their operations in the Gaza Strip. Levy wrote:
They have never seen an enemy aircraft. Israel’s last air battle took place before they were born. They’ve never seen the white of an enemy’s eyes, and they’ve never had a close look at the red blood of their victims. They are heroes who are fighting the weakest and most helpless of people, people who have no air force, no anti-aircraft systems, who are hardly able to fly a kite.
Levy’s article brought on a serious outcry. Fighter pilots are seen as untouchable heroes in Israel. Only the best of the best, so the thinking goes, manage to pass the hard and lengthy training for fighter pilots. They are the elite within the country’s military circles. Levy’s piece, which was written after 21 members of the Gaza police chief’s family lost their lives as collateral damage, is seen as inexcusable sacrilege. Levy has tried to explain his position in talk shows and interviews. He said during one TV interview:
Most Israelis are not exposed to the images from Gaza and don’t see what is happening there. In recent days, death and destruction have occurred to a terrifying extent, and someone has to be held accountable for it. It’s not just the pilots who are responsible for it, but they are, too. And you have to wonder if no one is taking moral responsibility for it.
During the interview, Levy was in Ashkelon, one of the cities hit most often by rockets from the Gaza Strip. He was standing in front of a shopping mall during his live TV interview. It didn’t take long for bystanders to interrupt him, shouting:
You are a traitor! You have called our pilots murderers! Aren’t you ashamed? You’re not allowed to speak here!
The host in the studio had to stop the interview because more and more people joined in to insult Levy. The embattled journalist went on to claim in another Haaretz article that he was nearly lynched. He wrote:
My best friends have urged me to leave the country until the situation has calmed down, or at least to be careful and not to leave the house.
But Levy is neither staying home nor leaving Israel. Instead, he is answering more questions from talk show presenters and continuing to voice his opinion. He says:
I ask you: there is such a strong and unified chorus in the media, so why are you disturbed by a single voice, a mere echo that differs? Why is it causing such an outcry? Why?
this is what you might call a complete blind alley: who the hell you gonna prosecute when you don’t know what you’re talking about?
Malaysia Flight 17 prosecution faces major evidentiary and legal obstacles
Ernesto Londoño, Michael Birnbaum, Greg Miller, Karen DeYoung, WaPo, Jul 22 2014
WASHINGTON/HRAVOVE, Ukraine – Despite mounting evidence that Russian-backed separatists downed a commercial aircraft over Ukraine last week, Western diplomats and law enforcement officials face significant obstacles prosecuting the culprits, according to current and former Usaian officials. Senior Usaian intelligence officials said Tuesday that they have not yet identified the separatists who operated the missile system that apparently destroyed Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, presenting investigators with their first and perhaps most daunting challenge. But in a briefing with reporters, the officials continued to build the Obama administration’s case of Russian complicity in a downing of the jet by separatists. The officials provided intelligence material on the path of the missile, voiceprint analysis allegedly of separatists discussing bringing down a plane, shrapnel markings on the aircraft, and material from social-media sites to back administration claims. The officials also identified a Russian military installation as a training hub for the separatists and a conduit for weapons to be sent into eastern Ukraine. Even if the perpetrators are identified, determining their motive and proving their guilt would pose evidentiary and legal challenges for which there is little precedent, according to experts in international law. Establishing a venue for a trial would almost certainly entail intense diplomatic wrangling. Moreover, as crime scenes go, the area in eastern Ukraine where the plane’s wreckage fell is a prosecutor’s nightmare, with reports of looting and tampering with evidence by separatists. William Burke-White, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania who served as a senior policy adviser from 2009 to 2011 to then-Sec State Hillary Clinton, said:
This is going to be one of the hardest prosecutions imaginable. Figuring out who actually launched the missile is going to be near to impossible, and any evidence that was there has probably been destroyed.
Dutch officials said Monday that the Netherlands would take the lead in investigating the doomed flight. Dutch Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans said Monday in an emotional speech at the UN:
Once the investigation ascertains who was responsible for the downing of the flight MH17, accountability and justice must be pursued and delivered. We owe it to the victims. We owe it to justice. We owe it to humanity.
On Tuesday, Obama visited the Dutch Embassy in Washington to offer condolences and pledge to support the investigation. Obama said after he signed a condolence book:
We will work with them to make sure their loved ones are recovered and justice is done.
A senior White House official said:
The precise shape of an international investigation, and what prosecution alternatives might be available, is still coming together.
The official said that Usaia was encouraged by the fact that Ukraine has decided to let the Netherlands lead the investigation. The two top critturs on the House Foreign Affairs Committee called on the UNSC and the Obama administration to do more to ensure that international investigators have access to the crime scene. Ed Royce and Eliot Engel said Tuesday in a letter to Jackass Kerry:
The credibility of the investigation into this horrific tragedy already has been severely compromised.
They called the incident a “crime against humanity.” Russian ambassador to the UN Vitali Churkin pledged Monday that his country would assist the investigation, but Western officials and analysts said they suspect that Moscow will be non-cooperative, if not outright obstructionist. Burke-White said:
Pres Putin has an obvious strategy of denial. It could well be that whoever did this has gone back to Russia and is able to lay low and use the Russian government as a shield.
At first glance, the Netherlands, home to the International Criminal Court, where complex legal crimes have been tried, might seem like an ideal venue. The ICC, however, is unlikely to have jurisdiction, because Ukraine and Malaysia are not member states of the global tribunal. A UNSC referral to try the case there would require the endorsement of Russia, which holds a veto. The Netherlands may seek to try the case in its own courts, based on the number of its citizens killed, but Russia or other nations could contest its jurisdiction, unless prosecutors are able to prove that the victims were targeted because of their citizenship. It is also possible that Usaia could bring a criminal case, because one of the victims was a Usaian citizen. A prosecution in this case is almost certain to be preceded by intense diplomatic negotiation, said Phillip Reid, a retired senior FBI agent who was among the lead investigators of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, which was downed over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988. Reid said:
It’s going to have to be a compromise, some sort of agreement that takes place if it’s going to happen.
At the main crash site Tuesday, only two guards watched over a vast area, and they did nothing to stop onlookers from walking through wheat fields that contain the charred and twisted wreckage of the plane. In nearby villages, potentially important scraps of fuselage that appeared to be pitted with shrapnel marks, potential evidence of an anti-aircraft missile strike, lay along the side of the road. International observers have said that local workers used power tools to slice away portions of the cockpit and first-class cabins. Reid said that any forensic evidence from the crash site in Ukraine that would be valuable to investigators has probably vanished. He said:
That crime scene has been contaminated in the worst way. This is a war-torn area. There is no law.
ha ha: ben rhodes & various spooks try to walk it backwards, try to walk it sideways, & generally try to walk it out of the pear-shaped zone
Usaia: No link to Russian govt in plane downing
Ken Dilanian, AP, Jul 22 2014
WASHINGTON — Senior Usaian intelligence officials said Tuesday that Russia was responsible for “creating the conditions” that led to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, but they offered no evidence of direct Russian government involvement. The intelligence officials were cautious in their assessment, noting that while the Russians have been arming separatists in eastern Ukraine, Usaia had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia. The plane was likely shot down by an SA-11 surface-to-air missile fired by Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine, the intelligence officials said, citing intercepts, satellite photos and social media postings by separatists, some of which have been authenticated by Usaian experts. But the officials said they did not know who fired the missile or whether any Russian operatives were present at the missile launch. They were not certain that the missile crew was trained in Russia, although they described a stepped-up campaign in recent weeks by Russia to arm and train the rebels, which they say has continued even after the downing of the commercial jetliner. One official said:
In terms of who fired the missile, we don’t know a name, we don’t know a rank, and we’re not even 100% sure of a nationality. There is not going to be a Perry Mason moment here.
White House deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said that Usaia was still working to determine whether the missile launch had a “direct link” to Russia, including whether there were Russians on the ground during the attack and the degree to which Russians may have trained the separatists to launch such a strike. Rhodes said in an interview with CNN:
We do think Pres Putin and the Russian government bears responsibility for the support they provided to these separatists, the arms they provided to these separatists, the training they provided as well and the general unstable environment in eastern Ukraine.
He added that heavy weaponry continues to flow into Ukraine from Russia following the downing of the plane. The intelligence officials said the most likely explanation for the downing was that the rebels made a mistake. Separatists previously had shot down 12 Ukrainian military airplanes, the officials said. The officials made clear they were relying in part on social media postings and videos made public in recent days by the Ukrainian government, even though they have not been able to authenticate all of it. For example, they cited a video of a missile launcher said to have been crossing the Russian border after the launch, appearing to be missing a missile. But later, under questioning, the officials acknowledged they had not yet verified that the video was exactly what it purported to be. Despite the fuzziness of some details, however, the intelligence officials said the case that the separatists were responsible for shooting down the plane was solid. Other scenarios, such as that the Ukrainian military shot down the plane, are implausible, they said. No Ukrainian surface-to-air missile system was in range. From satellites, sensors and other intelligence gathering, officials said, they know where the missile originated, in separatist-held territory, and what its flight path was. But if they possess satellite or other imagery of the missile being fired, they did not release it Tuesday. A graphic they made public depicts their estimation of the missile’s flight path with a green line.
The jet’s flight path was available from air traffic control data. In the weeks before the plane was shot down, Russia had stepped up its arming and training of the separatists after the Ukrainian government won a string of battlefield victories. The working theory is that the SA-11 missile came from Russia, although Usaia doesn’t have proof of that, the officials said. Sam Power said last week:
Because of the technical complexity of the SA-11, it is unlikely that the separatists could effectively operate the system without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. Thus, we cannot rule out technical assistance from Russian personnel in operating the systems.
Asked about evidence, one of the senior Usaian intelligence officials said it was conceivable that Russian paramilitary troops are operating in eastern Ukraine, but that there was no direct link from them to the missile launch. Asked why civilian airline companies were not warned about a possible threat, the officials said they did not know the rebels possessed SA-11 missiles until after the Malaysian airliner was shot down.
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Dzerzhinsk city administration building burns, with NatGuards trapped inside, definitely 18+:
Junta’s 25th Airmobile Brigade trapped at the Russian border near Koschevnye:
Junta troops trundling about in Dzerzhinsk
Nat Guards started to apply 300m MLRS Smerch (“Tornado”, another member of the “Buk” family)
Results of overnight shelling junta Lugansk and Lisichansk
Events in Donetsk on Jul 21 2014
Avdiivka coke plant burns in the city of Avdiivka near Donetsk. Avdiivka is Europe’s largest coke plant. It is part of the industrial group Metinvest Rinat Akhmetov. (So that’s no coincidence, then: Kolomoisky is burning down all Akhmetov’s plant – RB)