This Anastasia Mikhailovskaya is the same woman who did those rather demented Strelkov videos that Dugin wrote – RB
Battalion Commander “Kerch”, MO DND Vadim Pogodin about the fighting in Novorossia, patriotism and Russian world
Anastasia Mikhailovskaya: – Today’s guest on “Open Studio”, battalion commander “Kerch” the Ministry of defence DND Vadim Pogodin. Vadim, in your opinion, what was the beginning of the war in Ukraine? Who needs it?
Vadim Pogodin: The War on Ukraine is needed by Pindostan: first of all, for its impact on Russia. Ukraine itself they don’t need. Pindostan survives only through wars and suppression of other States. The first attempt to wage war was in 2005, Then Ukraine gave their protege Yushchenko, and as if the war never happened. But Ukraine has penetrated many Western agents of influence, and, in fact, have prepared these orange revolution. Compare with the same Syrian revolution, Libya, is all one plan, with slight variations everywhere in effect. The aim of the current revolution in Ukraine was to wage war. You remember, Yanukovych concessions any, to the extent that he was willing to limit his powers fully to take the power to the opposition. But they didn’t need this power. They needed a war. There was a coup: Donbass rebelled against it. Rallies started. I thought it would happen here in the Crimea, without war, victims, destruction. But what I saw, it was clearly disorganized bunch of people who in anger from what happened a coup d’etat, mock Pindostan, went to capture the regional administration.
A. M: You’ve done with politics, had its own organization?
VP: Up to 2004, before the orange revolution policy was not particularly interested in, I have normal business was. But the revolution I took it as a war that we captured a Pindosi agent.
A. M.: ” Whom do you mean?
VP: Well, of course, Yushchenko and the company all: this Sabbath on the square in front of my eyes was happening. I once visited, I went to see what it is, the Maidan. And then just with friends, to be honest, I flew once a week there to laugh: there were some farmers. In the crowd at first there were a lot of Kiev, they went, looked, some from curiosity, some out of conviction. But even I, a native of Donetsk, after spending 3-4 hours on the Maidan, I almost began to cry: “Yushchenko”. So acted on the psyche constant flickering flags, drumming rhythmic. Plus in the crowd constantly say the same thing, monotonously. These were educated people who knew how to behave. There clearly was prepared a coup. This tried and tested technology. All revolutions usually someone suck, grow. When the coup happened, I was outraged. His indignation on inauguration day Yushchenko our organization, “We” expressed directly on the Maidan Nezalezhnosti square in front of his podium. There’s about 300 people, around us stood in pomaranchewych ribbons, clearly prepared. Scandals tried to impose, but we tried not to get involved. Later went to Kiev, came in Mariinsky Park in garter camp. There just planted my friend for political reasons. In Kiev, I was delayed and would often come in this Mariinsky Park, supported the people who opposed Yushchenko, that was released Kolesnikov. There were clearly political repression, after 4-5 months he was released. Here came from there, I there became acquainted with the young guys. The idea arose to create a social organization that will fight against the power that Pindostan us has imposed. Well, somewhere within six months, maybe years, held the shares, there Donetsk airport – it was creative, Yushchenko even, as far as I know, for some time the visits were postponed…
A. M.: How Yushchenko postponed their visits, what did you do?
VP: – Our organization is several people, and in the press inflated nicely that we were there 5,000. Brought sandbags, barbed wire, Jerzy… that is more hype. Clearly, we would be anyone there, not stopped, but it was done…
A. M.: But Yushchenko has not arrived…
VP: In 2003, all in Donetsk was not allowed. Him through the fence had to move, then the whole crowd chanted, drove him from Donetsk. It was literally a year and a half before the event. Then we were judged, demanded to stop the action at the airport. Remember, the judge asked why urchins, sand bags, how many? Then asked why the barbed wire at the airport? And barbed wire, as Yulia Tymoshenko promised Donbass barbed wire fencing, here we are and ohgodyes.
A. M: – That is, protests you made long before the current events?
VP: Yes. The business I broke it, and well, I’m not particularly upset. After some time went to the Crimea to live. I think it’s OK going well until in Slavyansk didn’t start shooting first. I was worried, but she was sitting there doing the work, it is necessary to feed the family. When did really like something on the war, I couldn’t stand together and went…
A. M.: – the war was reasoned protests, that is, people really didn’t want to live under the Ukrainian government, under the rule of the Nazis.
VP: – You see, I treat this situation like this: at the moment the legitimate President of Ukraine is Viktor Yanukovych. Whether he is good or bad is a secondary question. This election must be solved. And all of the current Ukrainian government, as the majority of people believes, there were elections or were not, it usurpers who fascist ideology, with the help of an enemy state seized power in our country. Clearly, Donetsk will not tolerate it. Moreover, not only the Donetsk, but also Kharkov, Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk, which now are silent, they are simply crushed and scored, the same guys Kolomoisky and all the rest. Of course, we didn’t want to put in Donetsk enemy forces… Those who agreed to serve the usurpers, actually criminals under the laws of any state. Any European court, if they consider relevant, will take the same decision. Yanukovych is President. I’m not for it or against it, there is a law that exists. We fought for the law as it actually is. And now fighting for the law.
A. M: So you are the only region in Ukraine, who fought for the true President and legitimate authority?
VP: We were fighting for the legitimate authority in the country. I personally, can at someone there was another motivation, the more people looked Crimea loose, many have experienced the hope that it will happen quickly. The majority of people thought that Russia would help. For example, I knew that would not help, it is impossible in this situation to get involved.
A. M.: Do you think that Russia could be drawn into this war, to arrange the Third world war?
VP: – To be involved in the war, of course. You know, the goal of Pindostan is to involve Russia in the war. It does not aim to seize the Ukraine, why she needs Ukraine, this piece, well fertile land, no questions, I love her as part of the Russian Empire, or as part of the USSR, this as part of the Russian world, as you call it, but for Pindostan to make such large analyses for the state with Russia especially makes no sense.
A. M: So are you against a United Ukraine or for a United Ukraine?
VP: ” I, of course, for a United Ukraine. All our land, you know, in my childhood still sits song “From Moscow to the suburbs, from the southern mountains to the Northern seas.” Only that this one Ukraine in principle, this is my conviction, must be part of the Eurasian Union or the Russian Federation, or as you wish, but we have a common Russian world, which should be together. In addition, the Potsdam conference of 1946 approved boundaries of the postwar world. How could so blatantly razderbanit country?! Got three people in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, in principle, to the fact without any legal grounds, as far as I know, divided it by the decree of a foreign state. Our ancestors a thousand years together, they built a huge state, in which all peoples considered themselves equal. General culture was common customs. Sought to something one. Built world. And this world then was separated. Now Kiev is obtained say: don’t give me the land that our ancestors came together, and why we let them refuse. And join somewhere to Europe.
A. M.: The more, Europe is absolutely not necessary.
VP: It is not necessary, You see – she refuses, it explicitly in any EU us never take. They only have at our expense to deal with Russia, this is the most common option. And they wanted chaos to arrange. And arranged in the end, they have achieved this. And that’s why the people of Donbass stood up and began to defend their land. This is called the latent occupation. In 1991, we are not specifically on occupation zone just. They are easier to manage. If in 2000, Putin would not have come to power, after Chechnya, after the Khasavyurt peace and Russia would not specifically exactly the same. The goal is a small state, a raw materials appendage to the “Golden billion” who live well. It all shows, it shows and current events. Europe that rushed to help Ukraine? Helps only military forces that were at war, and so, financial, where there? No. It is only necessary, it is reasonable to look at things calmly aside from the fact that the ears are blown from all sides.
A. M: So, despite the fact that Putin has not invaded, you still for Putin?
VP: Oh, I just realize, I am sure, the majority of Russians, Putin really want to help us, but do not have the right. We would now outlawed, but fight for the truth.
A. M.: Do you think that Russia could not send troops to Ukraine, because there is an agreement, as I understand it, yes?
VP: Is the contract with Pindostan, which is guaranteed by Russia and Pindostan, when we removed nuclear weapons, for some unknown reason, that they protect our sovereignty, roughly speaking. Although at first it had violated the Pindosis, propanol in power Yushchenko.
A. M.: And what is this contract?
B. N.: The agreement that Russia and Pindostan guarantee immunity. If Russia will now introduce troops to Ukraine, then, strictly speaking, violate this agreement. Pindostan will be entitled to start a third world war, considering that it has the right to do it.
A. M: So you believe that they are now speculating that agreement? And consequently, because of this pressure on us…
VP: Well, so, yes. And in principle, how can Russia send troops? What will happen next? Then begins a guerrilla war in the Carpathians.
A. M: That is, Pindostan will disburse guerrilla movement…
VP: Of course, it initially and calculated everything was, I say, these battalions there, the Right Sector, all else, remember how many years they had studied abroad, there are also frames, they studied in order to wage war. Because they didn’t think for a second that Yanukovych will take power. You see where there are professionals in the government build the economy, or something else? They didn’t think. Thought the usual scenario to wage war. To gather a crowd of sacrificial sheep, otherwise they will not be called. Then, when they go up, shoot, it’s the same in other countries did not happen again. To shoot, then to start a guerrilla war in the West of Ukraine. And that’s all. Would like our people, we are one people, to keep afloat economy. And raise it you couldn’t, because there’s a war, sabotage, and everything else, it spread to the Crimea, and in Russia this war. It is 100%.
A. M.: The fact that Yanukovych’s so gone, you think it was correct step?
VP: I think the right move at 100%. Here it is not necessary to be seven spans in a forehead. Everything was calculated that Yanukovych will go to disperse the crowd, starts shots, hit men, and, as always, Pindostan will begin: the criminal regime of Yanukovych beats his people, supported by Russia. And it would start a war somewhere in the Carpathian mountains, the forests, it would be a hard war, unnecessary war. And everywhere, all over the world we would be criminals that terrorise his people. While sitting there, the terrorists, as they are now fighting against us, Poles, Pindosis, Blacks…
A. M: You saw them there?
VP: Yes, of course, seen. Moreover, we captured took mercenaries from Sierra Leone, now personally we took with documents. We are in the third division once it has passed, let them do. There I saw many times foreign prisoners. Saw the murdered Poles, not one. Yes the Poles, the whole airport Donetsk in the bulk of the Poles. Ukrainians show there some part of Ukrainians, while the majority of Poles there fighting. The mercenaries.
A. M: Do you think that with the resignation of Yanukovych, behold now, we have mixed cards to Pindosis?
VP: We are 100% mixed cards to Pindosis, of course.
A. M.: Now many accused Strelkov that he went to war. I understand he supported the mood of the people, who wanted what happened?
VP: Igor Ivanovich, in my opinion, is a true Russian. That means he went to war? He put in Slavyansk border against seized power geeks. All. Why attack Slavyansk? He wasn’t going to attack. As he went to war? Unleashed those who attacked him. After the referendum passed already. He kept the defense after the will of the people. Went to war, those who went to attack it. And that’s all.
A. M: So that those who went to attack it, in fact, they — We can’t say that you are fighting against the Ukrainians against the people. You, I understand, fight against fascism?
B. N.: The Ukrainians are Ukrainians, and “ukrop” is “ukrop”. This is the fascists. Can’t even now not to condemn, I feel sorry for them. This Pindosi technology. People who a year ago thought one thing, now I think completely different, they have everything in their head upside down. I don’t know how they do it, really, but there’s also the brains upside down completely. These are our people, which now has to kill, that’s going to kill us and bombed our cities. I know, many refused. But nevertheless, began the war, arose hatred, we have started to hate them, they began to hate us. Eventually got what I got was a full-scale war within his own nation. That’s sometimes weird to many Russians incomprehensible, that “ukrop”, Ukrainians, so and so… no! Ukrainians are exactly the same as the Muscovites, or exactly the same as in Vladivostok people. Simply, if Mr Putin since 2000, he slowly began to pull the country from this Pindosi threat, we have all this time been brainwashed, especially in Western Ukraine. And, in fact, turned out to be what happened: the dislike of his people to his people. And that’s all.
A. M.: That is, again according to plan Sharpe (Gene Sharp, colour revolution theorist – RB) to embroil the Slavic people inside?
VP: of Course, they want the war was between his, embroil. Just imagine, this war happened, the blood spilt from one to the other parties. I believe that in principle we will make it up, although this requires a Herculean effort.
A. M: – What would be the output for reconciliation?
VP: When really, I think, now it’s getting colder. Freeze would be the situation at least until spring. Even if that part of the Ukraine wants to live together with Europe, let them live together with Europe for some time, will feel all the charm of European life, look, if they don’t have the example of the Greeks, Spaniards, Italians, whose awful decreased level of life, let them feel. I think, maybe then they will start in the head a little bit to realize who the real enemy. Clear, it is necessary to promote enhanced…
A. M.: Do you think if there will be hunger and cold, they will turn their guns against their own rulers?
VP: – Cold and hunger best. Even in religion, the hunger and the cold very well clean. Let попостятся a bit. No, God forbid, I’m not against it, suddenly they will start an economic boom, suddenly Europe and Pindostan send forces to Ukraine flourished? I’m also happy. Excellent: our brothers live well and happily! Okay, let live, we do not go to them.
A. M.: But they will not stop bombing your cities, to kill civilians?
VP: Yes, I agree, that’s exactly it should until their recapture. Where bombed, there need to bomb. We have a truce was, there’s Granitnoye, is a large group, there’s no war there. Sometimes shootings happen officers talk on the phone: “Are you out there shooting, truce?” There is no war, and in the district of Donetsk is because they need a victim, they need to destroy infrastructure, airport keep in the first place, because im from there you can shoot at Donetsk, destroy substation, gas station and so on. They need us to be in hunger and cold. They already understand that Ukraine has no chance of Donetsk, Lugansk. You see, they have 27,000 or 29,000 deserters according to the Ukrainian statistics.
A. M.: Why are people so he tears the roof that they do not understand: it is one and the same people that dumbasses that this is not the English, against whom they are fighting?
VP: – Hysteria so overtaken. Such technology. I don’t know why they do so. If I was there, I would have felt. I explain: when I’m on the Maidan came after 4-5 hours of standing there ready to shout their slogans.
A. M.: Is This brainwashing?
VP: Yes! Despite the fact that I know that I, for whom, where, how. I have firm beliefs. I then had to go, when adapted, looked at them, laughed. Brainwashed them to treat it. They are sick people, they are not enemies, they are sick people.
A. M: You said that you have gradually increased military power. Now all units be eliminated, commanders transferred to some other groups. Do you think this benefit is the Donetsk Republic?
VP: You know, it was, in principle, popular protest, different people came in the militia. So to put things in the army the order must, in any case. But as it happens, I am extremely against it. My opinion is that after Strelkov had gone, discipline and order in the army have fallen significantly. And to assess the current reform, I to it a few negative attitude, how she goes. But the reform I have a positive attitude. All right, should be the Ministry of defence DND, and all must obey him, should be structuring, as it should be.
A. M: And how much you have subordinates?
VP: At the end of 300 people, then another company I gave.
A. M.: And how many died from yours?
VP: That’s the defense I have 6 people were killed. Thanks to our Colonel, he skillfully painted the defensive line of trenches. I think if the other side of Donetsk окопали as well, then, perhaps, would be to Donetsk closer.
A. M.: – Do you think we need to consolidate around our President and it every support that we in Russia have not been to the orange revolution and not spilled all in this terrible war…
VP: Yes, of course, necessary! First, know that I’m in Moscow I was displeased to hear? I heard, but came and personally from the taxi driver heard: “They’re all bad!” Once we’ve had. “Deputies so get these so much, and we get so much.” People need to understand that getting all will be well, exactly when will be strong, mighty power, when it will cease to plunder the neighbouring powers. Putin is very difficult, because by the year 2000, when he came to power, there was corruption, hidden control system and so on. Virtually Russia has already been absorbed. Russia cannot capture stupidly simple, given its nuclear capabilities. Therefore, it should be captured only from the inside. By 2000, it has almost been fulfilled. Look at the war in Chechnya, the same, yes everywhere, it was understandable. All revenues from oil left in the middle of nowhere. And so forth, and the like. Putin pulls it all. Growing standards of living. People somehow gradually, you know, forget growing, well-well-well. You look like you 10 years ago lived and now live: better or worse? It is clear at once, all in chocolate does not happen gradually. I think it goes really properly, it should only help. And traitors around him too much. Recently he did a final warning fifth column, it is already clean. You need to cultivate patriotism in the country. People should love their country, for the sake of the country to work, so she was powerful, and then they will live well. And not vice versa, as I understand it. And we have many people: “Oh, Pindostan, Europe!” It somehow helped? Well, except that gay pride parades want to spend, maybe someone likes it. And I don’t see any help from them – put our economy cheap goods, credits. They are killing us, and they say, “Oh, Pindostan, Europe!” Putin’s goal is to bring the country under foreign influence, to return revenues to the state, and it is successfully obtained. And, in fact, to unite our country, which раздербанена. That is, to release. Ukraine, once again, Russia is one country. I would call it not Russia, not Ukraine and the Eurasian Union, the USSR, the Russian Empire, but this one state. And Georgia, our state, our people live. How we live together already? And Uzbekistan is the same. Our people are. I remember in my childhood I full Union with the father circled, he was a pilot. I flew everywhere, like home. There Uzbek, Tajik, what’s the difference. Actually, I have the best memories of any area of the USSR.