it should be obvious that chomsky is lying through his teeth here

Chomsky Interview (extract)
Torture Magazine, Dec 14 2012

I doubt very much that Russia and China had anything to do with the lack of US or Western military intervention in Syria. In fact, my strong suspicion is that the US, UK and France welcomed the Russian veto because that gave them a pretext not to do anything. Now they can say, “How can we do anything? The Russians and the Chinese have vetoed it!” In fact, if they wanted to intervene, they wouldn’t have cared one way or the other about a Russian or Chinese veto. That’s perfectly obvious from history, but they didn’t want to intervene and they don’t want to intervene now. The military and intelligence strategic command centers are just strongly opposed to it. Some oppose it for technical, military reasons and others because they don’t see anyone they can support in their interests. They don’t particularly like Assad, although he was more or less conformed to USraeli interests, but they don’t like the opposition either, especially their Islamist elements, so they just prefer to stay on the sidelines. It’s kind of interesting that Israel doesn’t do anything. They wouldn’t have to do much. Israel could easily mobilize forces in the Golan Heights. They could mobilize forces there, which are only about 40 miles from Damascus, which would compel Assad to send military forces to the border, drawing them away from areas where the rebels are operating. So that would be direct support for the rebels, but without firing a shot and without moving across the border. But there is no talk of it and I think what that indicates is that USrael and their allies just don’t want to take moves that will undermine the regime, just out of self-interest.


  1. lafayettesennacherib
    Posted December 17, 2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Everyone lies under torture! But no, I think he’s just getting tired and it’s showing increasingly, though his intinerary is still pretty astonishing… but he isn’t quite pulling it together so much anymore.

    Funnily enough, I had this interview bookmarked because there was something later in it (this is a longer version of the interview: that rankled me. In fact this seems quite out of character:

    ” It’s also worthy of note that the International Crisis Group, which is the main, non-state element that deals with continuing conflicts and crises throughout the world, and is very highly respected, opposed intervention too. They strongly supported negotiations and diplomacy. … You can read an account of it in the current issue of the London Review of Books by Hugh Roberts, who was, at the time, the North African Director of the International Crisis Group and a specialist on the region.

    [ which is an excellent piece, nonetheless, and free to non-subscribers far as I can see] ”

    So, what’s a ‘non-state element’? An NGO? And ‘respected’ by who exactly? I had a recollection of reading something damning about the ISG not so long ago, but the only links I could find were there these:

    From the latter, this shows that the ISG is much what you would suspect, even if Engdahl’s the only person saying so:

    ” In addition to getting government funds from the US and UK governments, Evans’ International Crisis Group also gets generous support from the Rockefeller, Ford and MacArthur foundations.11 George Soros, founder of the Open Society Institute sits on the ICG Board of Trustees.12 Until he made his dramatic and well-timed return to Egypt in January 2011, Mohamed El Baradei also sat on the board of the Brussels-based ICG. 13

    The ICG was previously headed by Zbigniew Brzezinski, adviser to US presidents and long-time associate of David Rockefeller. Among other leading figures linked to Evans’ International Crisis Group have been founder, Morton Abramowitz, former board member of the National Endowment for Democracy.14

    The present chair of ICG is Thomas Pickering, former US Ambassador to Moscow and to El Salvator where he was accused of backing creation of death squads. ICG’s board also includes General Wesley Clark, former NATO-commander who led the destruction of Yugoslavia in 1999 and Samuel Berger, former US National Security Advisor. Former NATO Secretary General, Lord Robertson of Port Ellen is also a member “

  2. niqnaq
    Posted December 17, 2012 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad that you paid attention to my claim that this is obvious lying, even though only to disagree. Personally, I’m not letting Chomsky off that easily. He can’t pretend convincingly not to be aware of all the frenzied death squad activity which the CIA has been organising both directly and via the Gulf secret services for over a year. In fact, according to Sibel Edmonds:

    The joint US-NATO secret training camp in the USAF base in Incirlik, Turkey, began operations in Apr-May 2011 to organize and expand the dissident base in Syria.

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