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Lavrov & Tillerson Joint Presser (Not “Putin & Tillerson”)
Tyler Durden, Zero Hedge, Apr 12 2017

Well that was awkward. Very clear differences were evident as Lavrov & Tillerson parroted each other’s national perspectives in their opening statements. Lavrov began with a statement:

  • LAVROV: PUTIN MET TILLERSON FOR MORE THAN 2 HOURS
  • RUSSIA SEES ATTEMPTS TO INTERFERE W/ PINDO-RUSSIA COOPERATION
  • RUSSIA URGES INVESTIGATION INTO SYRIA CHEMICAL ATTACK: LAVROV
  • RUSSIA SEES PINDO READINESS TO SUPPORT UN SYRIA INQUIRY: LAVROV
  • PUTIN READY TO RESTORE SYRIA AIR ACCORD W/ PINDOSTAN: LAVROV
  • RUSSIA, PINDOSTAN SHARE COMMON GOAL TO DEFEAT ISLAMIC STATE: LAVROV
  • RUSSIA, PINDOSTAN AGREE UKRAINE MINSK ACCORD MUST BE MET: LAVROV
  • RUSSIA, PINDOSTAN CONCERNED BY KOREAN PENINSULA SITUATION: LAVROV
  • RUSSIA, PINDOSTAN AGREE DIPLOMATIC SOLUTION NEEDED FOR KOREA: LAVROV

Tillerson responded:

  • TILLERSON CALLS MEETING WITH PUTIN `PRODUCTIVE’
  • PINDO-RUSSIA RELATIONS AT A LOW POINT, TILLERSON SAYS
  • POOR TIES BETWEEN PINDOSTAN AND RUSSIA CAN’T CONTINUE: TILLERSON
  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA BELIEVE IN UNIFIED, STABLE SYRIA: TILLERSON
  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA AGREE NORTH KOREA NEEDS TO DENUCLEARIZE: TILLERSON
  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA DIFFER IN BROAD RANGE OF ISSUES: TILLERSON
  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA NEED TO END DEGRADATION IN TIES, TILLERSON SAYS
  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA WILL CONSIDER NEW PROPOSALS ON SYRIA: TILLERSON
  • UKRAINE SITUATION REMAINS OBSTACLE FOR PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA: TILLERSON
  • PINDOSTAN CONFIDENT SYRIA EXECUTED GAS ATTACK, TILLERSON SAYS
  • ASSAD BROUGHT ON TRUMP CHARACTERIZATION HIMSELF: TILLERSON

But it was the press questions that showed the real tension…

On Sanctions…
“The world’s two primary nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship,” Tillerson said in Moscow after hours of meeting with Lavrov and Putin.

  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA DISCUSSED NO CHANGE IN SANCTIONS STATUS: TILLERSON
  • LAVROV: TILLERSON WASN’T THREATENING RUSSIA W/ SANCTIONS TODAY

On Election Interference…
“We’ve got some difficulties with a majority of those issues,” Lavrov says, referring to the Pindosi allegation that Syria dropped sarin gas on its own people or interfered with the Pindo election. “No one has shown us any evidence” of election meddling.

  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA TOUCHED ON CYBERSECURITY ISSUES, TILLERSON SAYS
  • INTERFERENCE IN ELECTIONS IS WELL-ESTABLISHED: TILLERSON
  • PINDOSTAN MINDFUL OF THAT INTERFERENCE IN ITS ELECTIONS: TILLERSON
  • LAVROV: RUSSIA HAS SEEN NO FACTS ABOUT PINDO ELECTION INTERFERENCE

On the “Armada”…
Trump has sent warships near North Korea and threatened to act alone if necessary to prevent it from gaining the capability to strike Pindostan with a nuclear weapon.

  • CARRIER STRIKE GROUP ROUTINELY IN PACIFIC: TILLERSON
  • TILLERSON CAUTIONS AGAINST READING INTO CARRIER GROUP’S COURSE

And then it went to ’11’ as Lavrov unloaded on Pindostan’s history of failed interventions…

On Syria and Pindo Intervention…
“The future of Syria has to be determined by the Syrians themselves,” says Lavrov. Sounds like Tillerson didn’t convince Russia of his viewpoint that Assad must go.

  • PINDOSTAN, RUSSIA DISCUSSED ASSAD’S FUTURE AT LENGTH: TILLERSON
  • PINDOSTAN VIEW IS ASSAD FAMILY REIGN COMING TO END: TILLERSON
  • LAVROV: RUSSIA SAW NO PROOF SYRIA CARRIED OUT CHEMICAL ATTACK
  • RUSSIA BEST PLACED TO HELP ASSAD RECOGNIZE REALITY: TILLERSON
  • LAVROV: NO INSURMOUNTABLE DIFFERENCES ON SYRIA, UKRAINE W/ PINDOSTAN
  • LAVROV CONDEMNS ‘HYSTERICAL CAMPAIGN’ IN PINDOSTAN TO BOMB SYRIA
  • RUSSIA WANTS TO FIND TRUTH ON SYRIA CHEMICAL ATTACK: LAVROV
  • PINDOSTAN HAS NO FIRM EVIDENCE RUSSIA INVOLVED IN ATTACK: TILLERSON

Lavrov quotes Tillerson, despite the fact that they are sitting next to each other:

Rex said that he’s a new man and he doesn’t want to dig into the past.

And then Lavrov starts doing exactly that, recalling the bombing of Serbia and the West’s fixation on removing “so-called” dictators. Lavrov is reciting cases where Pindostan violated international norms, including executing Saddam Hussein despite finding no evidence that he had weapons of mass destruction. Lavrov has a laundry list of Pindosi attempts to remove dictators, from Sudan to Libya to Iraq.

I recall from the past Pindostan’s fixation on the removal of various foreign authoritarian or totalitarian leaders … We know all too well how this ends.

And he went on from there!!!

What Chance Peace?
Tyler Durden, Zero Hedge, Apr 12 2017

“You get a red line, you get a red line, everyone gets a red line…”20170411_redline_0Source: Townhall.com

Putin Meets With Rex Tillerson At The Kremlin
Tyler Durden, Zero Hedge, Apr 12 2017

Despite numerous earlier reports that Putin would not meet Tillerson, moments ago the “breathless speculation” and suspense whether they would meet ended when Peskov told Sputnik:

Putin is currently meeting with Tillerson, together with Lavrov in the Kremlin.

Peskov refrained from revealing what they discussed. Earlier Tillerson met with Lavrov, when in a closed door meeting the Russian foreign minister warned Tillerson not to strike Syria again.

Tillerson met with Putin several times as chief executive of ExxonMobil. Putin awarded Tillerson the Order of Friendship in 2013. It was believed that his relationship with Putin would help Trump improve relations with Russia. So far that has not been the official case. We will update this post following the media briefing on what was discussed in the meeting between the two. Details to follow.

Russia Slams “Absurb” Trump Demands, Warns Tillerson “Don’t Strike Syria Again”
Tyler Durden, Zero Hedge, Apr 12 2017

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At the start of talks with Tillerson in Moscow on Wednesday, Lavrov blasted the Trump administration’s “ambiguous and contradictory” foreign policy and spoke of “an unlawful attack against Syria.” Meanwhile, according to a Kremlin transcript published Wednesday of an interview with the Mir TV channel, Putin said:

Relations with Pindostan are worse than under Obama. Trust at the working level, especially at the military level, hasn’t improved. Rather it’s deteriorated.

In remarks before a closed-door session, as the WSJ reports, Lavrov said:

It’s quite absurd to demand that Russia abandon Assad, as this would mean ending support for his forces that are fighting against Daesh and other terrorist groups in Syria. We believe it’s fundamentally important not to let these actions happen again.

Tillerson told Lavrov:

This meeting will further clarify areas of sharp difference so that we can better understand why these differences exist and what the prospects for narrowing these differences may be.

Peskov told reporters on a conference call:

There’s a probability that Putin and Tillerson will meet if the talks between Lavrov and Tillerson generate any result worth reporting to the head of state.

One Comment

  1. L
    Posted April 13, 2017 at 5:15 am | Permalink

    Here is the LaRouche spin or perspective:

    https://larouchepac.com/20170412/us-and-russia-establish-working-group-british-are-furious-plus-more-truth-comes-out

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