don jr goes a bit limp

Trump Jr: Never Told My Father, There Was Nothing To Tell
Tyler Durden, Zero Hedge, Jul 11 2017

In his first public appearance since his tweeted emails earlier today, which seemed to confirm that the Trump campaign was aware that the Russian government was willing to help them, Donald Trump Jr admits “In retrospect, I probably would have done things a little differently,” telling Sean Hannity that he did not tell his father about the meting because “It was just a nothing. There was nothing to tell.” Key excerpts are provided by Axios. On whether in retrospect he would have done things differently:

In retrospect, I probably would have done things a little differently. Again this is before the Russia mania, this is before they were building this up in the press. For me this was opposition research, they had something you know maybe concrete evidence to all the stories I’d been hearing about, probably under reported for years not just during the campaign so I think I wanted to hear it out. But really it went nowhere and it was apparent that wasn’t what the meeting was about.

On why he decided to take the meeting with the Russian lawyer:

Honestly, my take-away when all of this was going on, is that someone has information on our opponent. Things are going a million miles per hour. You know what it’s like to be on a campaign. We just won Indiana, but we’re talking about a contested convention. Things are going a million miles per hour again and hey, wait a minute, I’ve heard about all these things but maybe this is something I should hear him out.

On whether he read the emails:

I had been reading about scandals that people were probably under-reporting for a long time, so maybe it was something that had to do with one of those things. I mean, this was her perhaps involvement with the Russian government … So, you know, again, I didn’t know if there was any credibility. I didn’t know if there was anything behind it. I can’t vouch for the information … Someone sent me an email! I can’t help what someone sends me! I read it, I responded accordingly, and if there was something interesting there, I think that’s pretty common.

On whether he told his father about the meeting:

No. It was just a nothing. There was nothing to tell. I mean, I wouldn’t have even remembered it until you started scouring through this stuff. It was literally just a wasted twenty minutes, which was a shame.

President Trump has finally reacted…

Yeah, well:

Trump Jr emails bring political warfare to fever pitch
Barry Grey, WSWS, Jul 12 2017

The political warfare in Faschingstein reached a new level of ferocity Tuesday following the release of an email chain by Donald Trump Jr concerning a Trump Tower meeting held in Jun 2016 with a Moscow lawyer who has links to Russian officials and wealthy oligarchs. The younger Trump released the emails along with an explanatory statement after he was informed that the NYT was about to publish the contents of the emails. The emails establish that Trump Jr, at the time a campaign adviser to his father, agreed to the meeting after being told by a business contact acting as an intermediary that the Russian “government lawyer” was offering to provide the Trump campaign with “official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.” The same Jun 3 2016 email from publicist Rod Goldstone said:

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump …

Donald Trump Jr quickly emailed a reply asking Goldstone to arrange the meeting and adding:

I love it.

The meeting, on Jun 9 2016, was attended by the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and the Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manafort. In the statement accompanying the emails, the younger Trump wrote:

The information they suggested they had about Hillary Clinton I thought was political opposition research.

Trump Jr claims no such information was provided, and he ended the brief meeting when Veselnitskaya tried to turn the discussion to the Magnitsky Act, which imposes sanctions on a number of Russian business figures and officials for alleged human rights abuses. The Moscow lawyer represents prominent clients affected by the law. In an interview with NBC News on Tuesday, Veselnitskaya denied any connection to the government and said she never intended to discuss the Hillary Clinton campaign with the Trump officials. A Kremlin spokesman said Putin is not acquainted with Veselnitskaya. The White House said Pres Trump first learned of the meeting only last week. The revelation of the Jun 2016 meeting and the release of Trump Jr’s emails have sharply intensified the campaign led by the Demagog Party and major media outlets accusing the White House of colluding with Moscow against the Clinton campaign. Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, the Demagog vice presidential candidate in 2016, told MSNBC on Tuesday:

We are now beyond obstruction of justice, in terms of what is being investigated. This is moving into perjury, false statements and even into potentially treason.

Representative Eric Swalwell, a Demagog member of the House Intelligence Committee, said on CNN:

I call it a betrayal of our country.

Demagog Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer said the emails released by the younger Trump marked “the end of the idea pushed by the administration and the president that there is absolutely no evidence of intent to coordinate or collude.” The anti-Russia campaign cuts across party lines, and some Thugs are joining the Demagogs in denouncing President Trump for being “soft” on Russia. Richard Painter, an ethics lawyer who served in the administration of Bush 43, said of Trump Jr:

This is treason! He must have known that the only way Russia would get such information was by spying! In the Bush administration we would have had him in custody for questioning by now!

Senator Susan Collins, a senior member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, joined the ranking Demagog, Mark Warner, in demanding that Trump Jr and the other participants in the meeting with Veselnitskaya testify before the committee and turn over all relevant documents. It was announced Monday that Trump Jr had obtained the services of a private lawyer. Driving the anti-Russia hysteria and the multiple investigations into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election is a furious struggle over basic questions of imperialist foreign policy. Powerful forces in the national security and intelligence establishment, allied with the Demagog Party and such media outlets as the NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC and NBC, are waging a no-holds-barred political war centered on forcing Trump to prioritize and intensify the conflict with Russia. The CIA and other intelligence agencies are continually leaking information damaging to Trump, such as the revelations surrounding the Jun 2016 meeting with Veselnitskaya, to the NYT, WaPo and television news outlets. This is a struggle between reactionary and wa-mongering factions that are equally committed to deeper attacks on the social conditions and democratic rights of the working class. There is no “progressive” side in this fight. The latest eruption of anti-Russian and anti-Trump agitation appears to have been triggered by Trump’s meeting with Putin last Friday on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Hamburg. Following the more than two-hour meeting, Trump and Tillerson hailed the meeting as “constructive” and said it was time to “move on” from the dispute over alleged Russian interference in the Pindo election. The two sides announced a ceasefire in south-western Syria and spoke of increasing their collaboration in the country. They also spoke of working together on the question of cyber-security. Trump followed up the meeting with a Sunday morning tweet that declared:

We negotiated a ceasefire in parts of Syria which will save lives. Now it is time to move forward in working constructively with Russia!

These developments provoked new attacks by Demagogs as well as anti-Russia hawks such as Sens McCain and Graham. On the Sunday TV interview programs, Graham called Trump’s meeting with Putin “disastrous” and denounced talk of moving forward “without punishing Russia.” McCain criticized Trump’s tweet on Russia and complained that Moscow has not “paid a single price” for meddling in the US election. Obama’s DCI, John Brennan, was brought onto NBC Meet the Press to attack Trump’s insufficiently aggressive posture toward Russia. He singled out Trump’s statement in Hamburg that he was “honored” to meet Putin, calling it “dishonorable.”

Lavrov Mocks Media Mania Over ‘Russian Lawyer’ & Trump Jr
Tyler Durden, Zero Hedge, Jul 12 2017


Following Kremlin denials that the ‘Russian lawyer’ that met with Trump Jr was ‘Kremlin-related’, Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday it was preposterous that Pres Trump’s eldest son was blamed for the meeting. Reuters reports that Lavrov asked to be shown “at least one fact” proving Moscow tried to interfere with the democratic process. Lavrov told a joint news conference with his Belgian counterpart in Brussels:

I learned with surprise that a Russian lawyer, a woman, is being blamed and Trump’s son is being blamed for meeting. For me, this is wild. Because when any person speaks to a lawyer, what problem or threat could there be? I didn’t know about this, I learned about it from television. It’s amazing that serious people are making a mountain out of a molehill.

“Love It” Smoking Gun Hype vs Reality
Mike Shedlock, Mishtalk (Blog), Jul 11 2017

The preposterous anti-Trump drumbeat from mainstream media is never-ending. The latest non-news revelation is Donald Trump Jr posts emails from Russia offering material on Clinton. Why should anyone give a rat’s ass?

Donald Trump Jr has been forced to release damning emails that reveal he eagerly embraced what he was told was a Russian government attempt to damage Hillary Clinton’s election campaign. The stunning disclosure raised questions over whether campaign laws were broken and why senior Trump associates failed to report a hostile act by a foreign power. The emails show music promoter Rob Goldstone telling the future president’s son that “the crown prosecutor of Russia” had offered “to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”

Anyone wishing to see the alleged “stunning disclosure” can do so here: Full text of the emails between Donald Trump Jr and Rob Goldstone. Ho Hum. So what? Here’s a curious headline from The Guardian: Don’t call it treason: Trump advisers’ legal jeopardy is deep, but not that deep. Supposedly trouble runs deep but not deep. That’s creative headlining at its best or worst, whichever you prefer. The answer depends on whether or not any laws were broken. Has Donald Trump Jr broken the law? And what kind of legal trouble, exactly, might he or other Trumpworld figures be in, culminating with the president himself? Have we just gotten a step closer to impeachment? Or is that state of play basically unchanged? Whatever you do, don’t call it “treason,” warned Fordham law school professor Jed Shugerman, author of the Shugerblog commentary site. He said:

As a legal matter, it’s irresponsible for anyone to be calling this treason. These terms not only have legal meaning but they also can be part of overplaying a legal or rhetorical hand. Treason is unusually narrowly defined in the Constitution as aiding enemies in wartime, with the framers, having just fought a revolution, working with acute awareness of the potential explosiveness of the charge. Instead, the strongest case (currently) against Trump Jr appears to fall under federal campaign finance law, which prohibits campaigns from soliciting contributions from foreign entities. If you are running for office in Pindostan, you are not supposed to seek or take help from non-Pindosis. Bernie Sanders knows this, which is why he hit Hillary Clinton over foreign donations to her family’s foundation. Up for debate is whether “opposition research” potentially provided by Moscow to Trump Jr would qualify as a “thing of value” under campaign finance law, which explicitly prohibits “contributions, donations, expenditures, and disbursements.”

The Clinton Foundation received actual monetary donations. Trump received useless information from Russians hoping to switch the conversation to something else. Even if the information was useful, so what? Why should anyone care? The Demagogs just will not give up. Under the federal anti-fraud statute, “It is a federal crime to conspire with anyone, including a foreign government, to deprive another of the intangible right of honest services. Of course, it is ridiculous to presume Trump sponsored hacking or conspired to deprive anyone of honest services. It’s amazing how flimsy these charges are. Good grief, it’s amazing how flimsy these charges are. Moreover, even if some claim can be made against certain individuals, they do not hit Trump unless he authorized them. There is a far greater chance of conspiracy, perhaps even a likely chance of conspiracy, in the illegal campaign donations and cover-ups in the Hillary campaign. Last week, Fox News dropped a bombshell report officially confirming, via anonymous FBI sources, what many had suspected for quite some time, that murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich was the WikiLeaks source for leaks which proved that the DNC was intentionally undermining the campaign of Bernie Sanders. In addition to exposing the corruption of the DNC, the leaks cost Debbie Wasserman Shultz her job as Chairwoman. I do not defend Trump lightly. I do not even like the man. And if the charges were reversed, I would not be alleging Hillary committed treason or was guilty of anything at all by talking to the Russians. All those attacking Trump on highly questionable grounds need to get a grip on reality. The charges against Hillary are not only worse, they are more warranted. Unfortunately, this is the sad reality:

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