this is getting downright bizarre

Tillerson: Pindostan Wants Dialogue With NK, Not Regime Change
Jason Ditz, Antiwar.com, Aug 1 2017

Taking positions seemingly opposite to Pres Trump’s on every point, Rex Tillerson discussed NK at a policy briefing today, saying that Pindostan is not NK’s enemy, and that they seek dialogue with the North Korean government. Tillerson also said that Pindostan does not blame China for the lack of progress so far, despite Pres Trump literally blaming China mere days ago, complaining that China was “doing nothing” to help Pindostan. Tillerson’s comments were contrary to Trump’s on several other marks, of course, as only yesterday Ambassador Haley declared the “time for talk is over,” and Pres Trump has repeatedly condemned the concept of diplomacy with NK as a failed policy of the past. Tillerson has over the past several days not made many public statements, but today appeared to be unusually willing to stake out foreign policy positions, not just on NK but on Iran as well, directly contrary to what the president has said.

Pindostan tells NK: ‘We are not your enemy’
Deutsche Welle, Aug 1 2017

Rex Tillerson sought to assure NK on Tuesday that Pindostan was not its enemy, but at the same time warned the regime it must abandon its nuclear activities. He said:

We don’t think having a dialogue where the North Koreans come to the table assuming they’re going to maintain their nuclear weapons is productive.

Briefing reporters at the State Dept about his first six months in office, Tillerson acknowledged there were limited options for dealing with Pyongyang, adding:

I would like to sit down and have a dialogue with them about the future. We do not seek a regime change. We do not seek a collapse of the regime. We do not seek an accelerated reunification of the peninsula. We’re trying to convey to the NKs that we are not your enemy, we’re not your threat, but you are presenting an unacceptable threat to us, and we have to respond.

Pres Trump has demanded that China do more to rein in its neighbor. Tillerson was more diplomatic, stressing that although China was in a unique position of leverage, it was not to blame for the situation in NK. Under the leadership of Kim Jong-Un, NK has continued to expand its nuclear weapons program, despite a string of UNSCRs. NK carried out its latest ICBM test on Friday. Following the launch, Kim boasted that NK could now strike any target in Pindostan. Analysts agreed that large parts of the Pindosi mainland including LA and Chicago, were in range of Pyongyang’s weapons. Meanwhile, Lindsey Graham told NBC Today that Trump would have no choice but to launch a devastating military strike if diplomacy and pressure from Beijing fail to curb the threat. Graham said that Trump told him he would go to war with NK “if they continue to try to hit Pindostan with an ICBM.” He said:

He’s told me that. I believe him. If I were China, I would believe him, too, and do something about it. There is a military option: to destroy NK’s program and NK itself. I prefer the diplomatic approach. But they will not be allowed to have a missile to hit Pindostan with a nuclear weapon on top.

Rex Tillerson says Pindostan would like to seek dialogue with NK and does not blame China for tensions
Barney Henderson, Julian Ryall, Telegraph, Aug 2017

Rex Tillerson has said that Pindostan does not blame China for escalating tensions with NoK and would like to seek a dialogue with Kim Jong-Un’s regime. His diplomatic tone directly contradicted Pres Trump, who tweeted two days ago that he was “very disappointed” with China and accused Beijing of doing “nothing” over Pyongyang’s military ambitions. Tillerson said that that relations between Pindostan and China were “at a bit of a pivot point” but that Faschingstein had “sought to partner” with Beijing over the growing threat from NK. Tillerson said in the rare press address at the State Dept:

We do not seek a regime change. We do not seek a collapse of the regime. We do not seek an accelerated reunification of the peninsula. We do not seek an excuse to send our military north of the 38th Parallel. We are not your enemy … but you are presenting an unacceptable threat to us, and we have to respond, and we hope that at some point they will begin to understand that and we would like to sit and have a dialogue with them.

A Pentagon source reportedly claimed yesterday that Pyongyang’s submarine force had been carrying out “highly unusual and unprecedented levels” of activity. The source told CNN that three “ejection tests” were carried out on land at Sinpo Naval Shipyard in July. Another test was carried out earlier this year at the base, which is the headquarters of the Maritime Research Institute of North Korea’s Academy of National Defence Science. An ejection test is designed to assess the cold-launch system which is required to propel a missile away from its tube on the submarine before the missile engine ignites, so protecting the boat. The ground-based tests also coincide with a NK Romeo-class submarine carrying out “unusual activities” off the east coast of the peninsula for at least one week in late July. Pindostan and SK monitored the activities of the 1,800-ton diesel boat, which is armed with 14 torpedoes and up to 20 mines. The submarine travelled more than 60 miles from the NK coast and into international waters, something which no submarine has been observed doing previously. North Korea first successfully tested a submarine-launched ballistic missile in August 2016. Pyongyang is believed to be aiming to deploy a missile-capable submarine as an additional threat to Pindostan. Lance Gatling, a defence analyst and president of Tokyo-based Nexial Research Inc, said:

Achieving a successful cold-launch ejection test, even from land-based tubes, is a critical step forward.

Tillerson says he and Trump disagree over Iran nuclear deal
Yeganeh Torbati, Reuters, Aug 2 2017

FASCHINGSTEIN – Rex Tillerson acknowledged on Tuesday that he and Pres Donald Trump disagree over the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, and said the two (are continuing to) discuss how to use the international agreement to advance administration policies. Trump at times vowed during his election campaign to withdraw from the agreement, which was signed by Pindostan, Russia, China and three European powers to curb Iran’s nuclear program in return for lifting most Western sanctions. Trump has preserved the deal for now, although he has made clear he did so reluctantly after being advised to do so by Tillerson. Tillerson said at a State Dept briefing:

He and I have differences of views on things like JCPoA, and how we should use it.

Tillerson said that Washington could “tear it up and walk away” or stay in the deal and hold Iran accountable to its terms, which he said would require Iran to act as a “good neighbor.” Critics say the deal falls short in addressing Iran’s support for foreign fighters in Iraq and Syria, arms shipments around the Middle East and ballistic missile tests. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Tillerson’s remarks. Trump said in an interview with the WSJ last month that he predicts Iran will be judged “non-compliant” with the Iran deal at the next deadline in October, and that he would have preferred to do so months ago. Tillerson expressed a more nuanced view of the deal’s potential benefits on Tuesday. Tillerson said:

There are a lot of alternative means with which we use the agreement to advance our policies and the relationship with Iran, and that’s what the conversation generally is around with the president as well.

Euro boxtops would likely be reluctant to reimpose sanctions, especially the broader measures that helped drive Iran to negotiate over its nuclear program in the first place, he said. New Pindosi sanctions on Iran in July were a breach of the nuclear deal, and Tehran had lodged a complaint with the body that oversees the pact’s implementation, a senior Iranian politician said. Tillerson acknowledged that Pindostan is limited in how much it can pressure Iran on its own and said it was important to coordinate with the other parties to the agreement. He said:

The greatest pressure we can put to bear on Iran to change the behavior is a collective pressure

Tillerson Acknowledges ‘Differences’ With Trump on Iran Deal
Krishnadev Calamur, The Atlantic, Aug 1 2017

Rex Tillerson acknowledged Tuesday he and Pres Trump “have differences” on the nuclear deal with Iran, but said the Islamic Republic was violating the spirit of the agreement with its activities, adding that Pindostan was working with its vassals to ensure Iran’s compliance with the deal. Tillerson, at a news conference at the State Dept, described his relationship with Trump as “good.” He said:

I feel comfortable telling him my views. He and I have differences of views on things like JCPoA and how we should use it, but I think if we’re not having those differences, I’m not sure I’m serving him.

At issue is the deal Iran signed in 2015 with Pindostan, Britain, China, France, Germany, Russia, and the EU, under which it agreed to freeze its nuclear program in return for the lifting of some international sanctions. Under Pindo law, the administration must inform Congress every 90 days whether Iran is still complying with the agreement. Trump, who as presidential candidate called the deal “the worst” ever, certified for the second time last month that Iran was in compliance. He later told the WSJ:

If it was up to me, I would have had them non-compliant 180 days ago. I will be surprised if they  are in compliance next time.

But Tillerson, speaking at the State Dept, said that Pindostan was working with “the other parties to that agreement, our European vassals in particular, to ensure we are fully enforcing all aspects of that agreement.” He said the JCPoA “dealt with a very small slice” of Iran’s actions, and “ignored all of their other detrimental activities in the region,” citing the Islamic Republic’s ballistic-missile program, and its actions in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and elsewhere. He added Iran was violating the spirit of the agreement through its actions. Tillerson acknowledged that because Iran had been rewarded up front for signing the deal, Pindostan had “limited levers available” and was working with its allies to put “collective pressure” on Iran to amend its behavior. “It is important in our view that we keep our allies with us” on the issue, he said. Returning to the issue of Iran’s violation of the “spirit of the agreement,” Tillerson said Pindostan would have to decide whether to tear up the deal or stay in it and hold Tehran responsible for its actions. Tillerson said:

The conversation on Iran does not begin and end with the JCPoA. I think there are a lot of alternative means by which we use the agreement to advance our policies and the relationship with Iran. And that’s what the conversation is generally, with the president as well.

4 Comments

  1. Posted August 2, 2017 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    as i keep saying, and the historical facts on the ground bear me out so far, trump picked up many kabbalah tricks, including the art of successfully (more or less, not easy) lying to jew in order to ensure day-to-day survival while pushing a long range agenda of collaboration with russians and liberation from ZOG.
    He and tillerson play good-cop-bad-cop game pretty well and even mattis seems to be catching on, i keep saying that trump will never, ever attack iran and all the seemingly hostile moves actually aid the “enemy”, be it NK, iran, syria, russia or china.

    for example the senate directed russia sanctions, what’s the end result so far?

    putin castrates us diplomatic staff and plugs the future color revolutionary activities at the wellhead, germany signals a major move away from jew usa (world sanctioning jewsa?), toward russia, with possible breakup of eu (the traditional central europe divorcing the seagoing global marauders), rejoining the industrious silk road project.

    2017 is shaping up into an unmitigated disaster for jews and is only 1/2 way thru.

    i like it, i like it, gimme more.

  2. niqnaq
    Posted August 2, 2017 at 11:20 am | Permalink

    OK

  3. CuChulainn
    Posted August 3, 2017 at 3:53 am | Permalink

    wow

    The US President’s signing of the package of new sanctions against Russia will have a few consequences. First, it ends hopes for improving our relations with the new US administration. Second, it is a declaration of a full-fledged economic war on Russia. Third, the Trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to Congress in the most humiliating way. This changes the power balance in US political circles.
    What does it mean for them? The US establishment fully outwitted Trump; the President is not happy about the new sanctions, yet he could not but sign the bill. The issue of new sanctions came about, primarily, as another way to knock Trump down a peg. New steps are to come, and they will ultimately aim to remove him from power. A non-systemic player has to be removed. Meanwhile, the interests of the US business community are all but ignored, with politics chosen over a pragmatic approach. Anti-Russian hysteria has become a key part of both US foreign policy (which has occurred many times) and domestic policy (which is a novelty).
    The sanctions regime has been codified and will remain in effect for decades unless a miracle happens. This legislation is going to be harsher than the Jackson-Vanik amendment as it is overarching and cannot be lifted by a special presidential order without Congress’ approval. Thus, relations between Russia and the United States are going to be extremely tense regardless of Congress’ makeup and regardless of who is president. Lengthy arguments in international bodies and courts are ahead, as well as rising international tensions and refusal to settle major international issues.
    What does it mean for us? We will steadily continue our work on developing the economy and social sector, take efforts to substitute imports, and solve major national tasks, relying mostly on ourselves. We have learned to do so in the past few years, in conditions of almost closed financial markets as well as foreign investors’ and creditors’ fear of investing in Russia upon penalty of sanctions against third parties and countries. To some extent, this has even been to our advantage, although sanctions are meaningless overall. We will cope.

  4. L
    Posted August 4, 2017 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    Lobro’s comment is very interesting….I would certainly like to hear more, or believe that it is true….Perhaps Russia can now fully get control of its monetary system and do a lot of house cleaning of the NED & Soros spooks etc….

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